Don't Make The Same Money Manifestation Mistakes We Did!

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello, and welcome back to the consciously thriving podcast. Did I butcher it? [00:00:04] Speaker B: You didn't butcher that. We're keeping that. [00:00:06] Speaker A: Oh, did we? [00:00:06] Speaker B: We're fully keeping that. [00:00:07] Speaker A: That's so funny. No, Nadia was meant to introduce the podcast. [00:00:11] Speaker B: Not that I was meant to introduce. It's just that I had been. Yeah, we, like, refilled this. [00:00:16] Speaker A: Meant to introduce. [00:00:17] Speaker B: Whatever, whatever. [00:00:19] Speaker A: Do you have chocolate here? [00:00:20] Speaker B: Do I? Yeah, I did say to show. Let me know if I have chocolate on my face. [00:00:23] Speaker A: Anyway, you got it. [00:00:24] Speaker B: Cool. Well, hello, and welcome back to another episode. [00:00:27] Speaker A: Hello. We're so excited to be here, actually, talking about chocolate on your face. We're just drinking a coffee for those listening on the podcast right now, but I have, like, chocolate sprinkled on top of the coffee. I remember I was at the cafe not long ago. Yeah, I had a chocolate moustache, and, yeah, I paid and everything, and I was just like, that is really embarrassing. [00:00:45] Speaker B: You would have paid so confidently. [00:00:46] Speaker A: I would have, yeah. I was just like, bye, have a good day. And I walked out of there, and. [00:00:51] Speaker B: I was like, pay fast and be. [00:00:54] Speaker A: Like, bye, have a good day. I was strutting my stuff, swined my hips. It was like, look at me. [00:00:58] Speaker B: But anyway, speaking of cappuccinos, I saw a meme the other day, and it's like, if you ordered a coffee with froth and chocolate on top, are you a baby? Like, are you actually a baby? [00:01:08] Speaker A: I think that person isn't actually living life to the fullest, to be honest. [00:01:11] Speaker B: But I'm like, do you know what your best moments come from when you're a child? So literally, not always, in all circumstances, bad. [00:01:18] Speaker A: Sorry. [00:01:19] Speaker B: You know what I mean? Like, you know that inner child moments. [00:01:22] Speaker A: Yeah. So funny. Actually, Dan's so used to having coffee on his chocolate now. What? Coffee on his chocolate. [00:01:33] Speaker B: What? [00:01:34] Speaker A: He's so used to having chocolate on his coffee because I make the coffees at home, and what the f. We're with his parents, and I ran out of chocolate, and then he looked at me, and he's like, no chocolate. And I was like, no chocolate. And then he's like, really? No chocolate? [00:01:55] Speaker B: What a baby. [00:01:56] Speaker A: Literally, like, he fully had a fit in front of his parents. It was really funny. Anyway, anyway, why are we here? Hi. How are you? All the pleasantries are out of the way because we actually have a really exciting episode to dive into. I'm actually, like, so excited to be filming this because I wish, I wish, I wish, I wish there was an episode like this, and there probably was. [00:02:18] Speaker B: But I just wasn't going to say this, but you were just rejecting the content. Your subconscious was anyway. She wasn't actually rejecting her subconscious. [00:02:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it was like, literally, fuck off. I don't want to hear any of it. But, no, honestly, like, this episode is going to save you so much time when it comes to manifesting money. Like, we are about to make this shit so fucking easy, so fucking simple for you, that you walk away from this episode not wasting your time with shit that literally just might not work well for you. Yeah, and I feel like there's so many. So, basically, what are we talking about? Let's actually dive into it. We're talking about the concept of money, which you would have seen from the title of this episode, but we're actually going to be diving into the old, like, manifestation things that we used to do in regards to, like, trying to manifest money and our relationship with money. And just like, any. Yeah. Everything we did to try and improve our financial experience that we were taught through mentors or, like, manifestation content, we consumed and we actually implemented in our life. And now, on the other side of all of that experimentation, all of our experience, our vast experience with money as well, we're here, and we're just like, okay, we're going to give it to you straight. What works, what doesn't work, what's worth your time, what's not worth your time. And we're gonna dive into all of it, which is gonna be exciting. So, before we actually started this episode, nads and I actually wrote a couple of things that we wanted to bring to the episode, and we don't know what each other has written down. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:44] Speaker A: So it'll be a vibe. [00:03:44] Speaker B: So I'm gonna start with a little bit of our background of our journey, or have we. Do you feel. [00:03:48] Speaker A: No, I feel like that's, like, good, too. Cause if you don't know us and this is, like, you know, you're just hearing our story now. I feel like it's good to hear what our experience with money has been like, so that you can understand that when I say that we have been through it, that we have experienced it all, I fucking mean it. So why don't you start? [00:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah, so I feel like. Just like, to cap on. To cap on. [00:04:15] Speaker A: To cap on. [00:04:16] Speaker B: You know, when you say to recap, but we're not. [00:04:18] Speaker A: It's gonna be one of those episodes. Feels. [00:04:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Honestly. [00:04:21] Speaker A: But seriously. [00:04:22] Speaker B: So, basically, if you are new to us and new to this podcast about two years ago, I would say two and a year and a half ago. [00:04:30] Speaker A: Maybe a year and a half. Two years. You've got chocolate again. [00:04:32] Speaker B: I just thought, okay, there you go. Sorry, I just said, was it two years ago? And you're like, a year and a half ago? Two years ago? [00:04:38] Speaker A: I have no fucking idea. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Anyway. [00:04:40] Speaker A: What? 2022. [00:04:41] Speaker B: 2022? [00:04:42] Speaker A: Middle of 2022. [00:04:44] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. [00:04:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I was just doing that for me. [00:04:46] Speaker B: You don't have to. Sorry. Watching the visuals. I've told you later. Let me know when I have chocolate on my face. [00:04:52] Speaker A: But I kept rubbing my lip and then she just kept mimicking my behavior. Yeah, I wasn't. [00:04:58] Speaker B: No. Anyway, basically, a year and a half ago, two years ago, Shulay and I decided to leave our nine to five corporate jobs. Well, jobs at the time, I didn't. [00:05:12] Speaker A: Have a corporate job, but. [00:05:13] Speaker B: No, you were a dermal clinician. [00:05:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:15] Speaker B: And I was in human resources. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:18] Speaker B: Fun. [00:05:19] Speaker A: Anyway, you know, in, like, the older episodes, I used to just be like, yeah, well, like, whenever you said corporate, I was like, yeah, whatever. Yeah. But it was like a normal same thing. [00:05:27] Speaker B: Like nine to five. Yeah, that's what I think about when I say, like, corporate. Like nine to five. Anyway, she only did have a bit more of a funner job. Not gonna lie. [00:05:35] Speaker A: No. [00:05:36] Speaker B: Anyway, basically, we left our jobs and went all in with our business. Obviously. Not, obviously, but at that time, we were still. We were still very much learning. We felt like we knew we had the foundations to, I guess, like, understanding manifestation and things like that. But really our journey and our experience, when it's come to, like, money and the energetics of money, we learnt through experiencing. Kind of going through it all, you know, I feel like there are so many different people. Some people experience not getting the success and learning what kind of went wrong there and then. Some people get the success and then they realize all their wounds come to the surface through getting the success and through getting the money. And they learn they have to, like, kind of heal that way. So I feel like for our experience, it was like we went through the wringer when I meant, like, when we actually got to a point where, like, both of us had experienced, like, completely having no money in our bank account, like, actually using the last part of our savings, and then having no, like, zero months in our businesses, like, actually, like, reaching those low points. Zero dollar months. Yeah, zero dollar months. To then learn the principles and the things that we're going to share with you today. [00:06:54] Speaker A: Yeah. So we've really had to. No, you didn't. Like, we've really had to go through it. Right. We have gone into situation. We've gone into our worst case scenarios with money. Right. I feel like with money, we were so attached. We were just, like, we were so attached to making it. We were so attached to what our bank accounts look like, and we really did manifest a lot of our fears throughout our entire journey, and. But it's been, like, one of the most, like, healing experiences, freeing experiences. Like, without what we went through, I don't. I wouldn't be here today. Like, no, you wouldn't. [00:07:26] Speaker B: In every situation, like, even in those moments where it was like, oh, I feel like I've hit my rock bottom or whatever, we got to experience the kind of the law of attraction and manifestation at. It's like, we got to see it play out and how it actually works. And through our experience, I'm like, holy shit. This experience of, like, you know, having those low moments and having those, like, low months or whatever, or just reaching to a point where you're, like, fully having to surrender to this current moment. I feel like we learned money energetics through that way. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:00] Speaker B: So deeply. Like, I'm like, I actually learned. I'm like, I understand how the money energetics works now and, like, not what I was doing wrong, but, like, more so, like, all the energy, I'm actually translating to money and, like, the relationship I have with money. [00:08:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:13] Speaker B: It's like, I could see it at its full, full force when I was in moments of, like, I don't know what's gonna happen next. I don't know where the money's coming from. So, like I said, people learn in very different ways and people grasp it, or you could just be. Could just listen and learn from our experience and just apply it to your life. [00:08:33] Speaker A: Yeah, 1000% something that you said, and I think, like, would be worth even, like, just having a conversation on before we really dive into it, because I feel like a lot of people have this question, particularly if you've been on, like, this journey of entrepreneurship for a while and things like that, you might often wonder this, like, why do some people, I would love to, like, hear your point of view on this. Like, why do some people get success and other people, like, don't? Like, why. Why are some people, like, getting success and learning through success? Why do they get to do that? And why do other people not, like, why are so many other people, like, struggling with it to get there and, like, they're learning through that way? [00:09:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I think, like, to be honest, I think, like, if I have a look at, like, you know, exactly, for example, my partner, like, he's gotten success very. And you can have you share your perspective on this. Like, he quit his bit. Um, he's nine to five and things have been going really well for him. Like, the momentum's there. Um, you know, he's not really doing much. He's just doing the jobs that he has and, like, opportunities are just coming to him left, right and center. So from this experience of, like, seeing and even through my own moments of, like, success, I feel like those people that, like, get the success and they get it really easily. I really do believe, believe that those people have a solid foundation, and the biggest difference is a solid foundation in their belief in themselves, their belief in their work. I think they have a solid, they have momentum there in terms of, like, there's not a lot of resistance to those things being manifested. Yeah, that makes sense. So I don't feel like it's like, oh, something like the universe goes, oh, you're gonna learn through success and yoga. Although, you know, the universe does always have the path of least resistance to help you get to where you want and it knows how you're going to learn something to get you to where you want. But I do see, when people, like, learn through success, I genuinely. There is no other way other than them having this belief in themselves, belief in their work, and there's like some level of momentum and less resistance than the people that are, like, learning through their failures. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. I think it's a belief system thing. [00:10:41] Speaker B: I think it's like, to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything is like, based on beliefs. [00:10:45] Speaker A: Exactly. Belief. Unless, like, no resistance. Yeah. [00:10:48] Speaker B: Like being open. Yeah. And, and you can have that. That's what's so funny about the law of attraction, because you can be open and you can be, like, not resistant to the things manifesting. But that doesn't mean that the energy in which you're bringing to it is the hottest. That's why some people, when they get the success, like, their whole world crumbles or like, their. Their wounds are manifested. Because it's like sometimes getting those things amplify how you already feel. Yeah, but it's not because the universe is being like, you learn this way and you learn this way, you, like, you know, has a part to play in it. But I do think, like, that's the biggest difference. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. [00:11:28] Speaker B: And even if you just think about, like, how we started with our journeys and like, through the failures, it makes sense. [00:11:34] Speaker A: I actually feel like I did have, like, I started with success. Like, I started with it being really fucking easy. And then I watched it all go downhill. That was really, like, my journey with it all. So that was interesting to go through. [00:11:46] Speaker B: And you see a massive difference in your energy when it was like. [00:11:49] Speaker A: Well, when I first. Yeah. Like, when I first went full time in my business, there was no resistance because that year, when I first started, I. I felt like I'd gotten to this point because I started the readings business a year prior, and then I had a six month break because I was like, I fucking hate this. I don't like doing this. [00:12:04] Speaker B: But even the reading business was easy for you. [00:12:07] Speaker A: It was easy. It's not like that. [00:12:08] Speaker B: Like, do you feel like, what was. Why was it easy? [00:12:11] Speaker A: I was playing. I had no expectations. My worth wasn't tied to it. [00:12:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:16] Speaker A: I had the other job, which was like, the money coming through your fellow. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:19] Speaker A: So I didn't feel like I needed the money. Do you know what I mean? [00:12:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:22] Speaker A: So I was like, it wasn't about the money. [00:12:25] Speaker B: That wasn't about the money. [00:12:26] Speaker A: The money was not even a conversation for me, like, them. [00:12:29] Speaker B: It was. [00:12:29] Speaker A: I was doing this because I loved it. [00:12:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:31] Speaker A: Like, I was like, oh, my God, I get to do this. I'm learning about energy because I went from being an atheist to doing this. And I was so excited. I was like, I'm reading strangers from all over the world. [00:12:42] Speaker B: Like, what? [00:12:43] Speaker A: And then I was helping people. Like, people were finding their sole purposes. I remember some readings that I did back then where people were on, like, completely different paths. And now I've literally watched their entire lives transform based on those readings I did for them there. Yeah, I'm just like, that's fucking wild now to witness, like, the power in those readings and those sessions. And I could feel it then and there, but it was pure love for what I was doing. There was no expectation. I was so excited learning something new. I was immersed in this world. So the business took off. I wasn't doing anything. I had no idea how to sell. [00:13:13] Speaker B: You didn't even know what you were doing? [00:13:14] Speaker A: I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. It was just coming to me. [00:13:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:17] Speaker A: And that happened. But then it got to a point where I was becoming really drained, and I was like, this is really fucking. Like, the readings really did fuck my energy because I had no energetic boundaries. I constantly living up there. I was never in my body. It was really, like, really bad for me to do. [00:13:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:34] Speaker A: But anyway, then I went through that six months where I'm like, what am I going to do? With myself now and then. I had nothing to lose. That was at the start of 2022. I had nothing to lose. So I was just like, whatever. I'm just going to follow my intuition and I don't care where it leads me, right? I'm just like, I've got nothing other than this, right. So I just kept doing that, and it led me to a path of, like, being like, oh, create this program. Create this masterclass. No experience. I had no idea how to do any of that, right. And I was just like, whatever, let me do it. So I put out the masterclass. Over 50 people signed, signed up, and my very first masterclass. And then I put out the program. And so many people, like, we're inquiring. So many people joined. There was like, what was it? Like a nine k? Nine k month, yeah. Right. My first year, my first month of business, and I was just like, that's wild. [00:14:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:22] Speaker A: You know, I mean, I was like, holy fucking shit. [00:14:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:25] Speaker A: And then that's when I remember when that happened. And then I. Because I was told intuitively to leave my job, to do all those things, so I did it, and then I got attached because I was like, okay, now I need money. [00:14:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:39] Speaker A: Now I need to make this work. Now that I've seen the potential, I was like, I need to keep growing from here. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:44] Speaker A: And then all of a sudden, all of these expectations and attachments started to form. I decided that I need to hire a strategy coach and somebody to teach me how to run an online business because I'm not going to know how to do it. I did that. I reinvested the money I made. It was wild. And then I started to attach to all of these external things, and I lost the magic and the love for what I was doing, and it reflected in how my business performed. [00:15:07] Speaker B: And that's what I mean. I'm like. I have literally seen it in front of my eyes. The person that has made it easy, and it's literally comes down to just not. It's just the. The lack of least. The resistance. [00:15:22] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. The word. [00:15:24] Speaker B: The lack of. Keep saying that. I was about to say the path of least resistance, but it's like their resistance to it manifesting their resistance to how it's happening, their attachment. [00:15:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:35] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It's massive. [00:15:36] Speaker A: It plays a massive role in it. So, shall we dive into some of the things that we used to do that we no longer agree with? [00:15:44] Speaker B: Sure. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Do you want to go first? [00:15:46] Speaker B: Sure. Let me go. So, yeah, these are some of the things that, like, we've learned along the way. So one of my thing, one of the things for me was, so let's just talk about gratitude for a second. So one of the things I used to do is I would force myself. So a lot of the time when we get into manifestation law of attraction, we talk about, like, gratitude. Because gratitude is, it's an abundant frequency. Like, when you're in a state of gratitude, it gently. You're in abundance. Because gratitude, when you're in pure gratitude, sorry, I'll just say that, not fake gratitude. When you're in a pure state of gratitude, you are in a state of abundance because that gratitude translates to more than enough. And that's exactly what abundance is. Right? So you're not in lack. But I knew this. I knew this subconsciously. I knew, like, gratitude was a frequency in which called in money and could allow more money to come through. But, like, even just the way I'm explaining it, you can see, like, the mindset I had at the time, but basically I wrote down, like, I used to force myself to be grateful, but I never could. It came from the energy of thinking, if I be grateful, I will get more. So that was something that I often practiced. And when I look back and it's so slight, it's like such a subconscious energy. But whilst I was, like, practicing, like, being grateful, and there were moments where I was genuine grateful, there was always this energy about, like, I want more. There was this energy of, what if it runs out? What if I could never actually practice, like, being in a state of gratitude purely in the frequency of gratitude? [00:17:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:19] Speaker B: Because I was so attached to more and I was so attached to making sure the money didn't run out. So if the biggest mistake I think people make when they get into this work and they know about gratitude, they know about abundance, is they don't heal their relationship to money first or prioritize that, because there's no way anyone can actually feel abundant. And you can, you know, play in frequencies of abundance and actually have this as your state of being if you have distortions going that you're ignoring in the background. Do you get what I mean? Like, you can't actually be in a state of gratitude if there is a part of you that isn't, like, is worried or has subconscious beliefs that money does run out. Or do you mean or that you are attached to making more money? Mm hmm. [00:18:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. I feel like my journey has, like, really evolved with that now because, yeah, like, I think, like, talking on that gratitude piece is really important in regards to people hearing, I need to be practicing gratitude. So let me do that so that I manifest what I want. [00:18:27] Speaker B: Like, that. [00:18:28] Speaker A: Doesn't that hold it? That's not actually being in gratitude. And, like, the whole, like, I'll write out a list or I'll think, you know, it's like, gratitude should be something that you infuse into your everyday being. Like, every single fucking day you practice being in the gratitude frequency, right. It's like, in every moment of every single day, you focus on being here and now. And, like, with the distortions around money and things like that. I agree with what you said. It's like you can't ignore your vibe. Like, you can't ignore the distortions coming up towards money. And just force a gratitude frequency onto yourself. It's not gonna work in resistance, and you have to. It's like, the way I see it now is I used to think that I had to, like, dissect everything that I had towards money. [00:19:24] Speaker B: No. [00:19:24] Speaker A: And that was a, like, a pretty limiting frequency because it kept me playing in the distortions of my mind. Right. So whenever I would have, like, lack and shit like that come up, I would really, like, sit there and try and, like, work it out and figure it out. Where is it coming from? Blah, blah, blah. But really, like, what I've learned through that process now is you don't actually have to, like, talk to your mental concepts anymore. What you want to do is you want to just see them, feel them, not resist them. Yeah. That's, like, what your work needs to be, right. It's like, you actually just have to see them. And then you have to know how to actually, like, let them go energetically. [00:20:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:05] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? [00:20:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I think, like, there's, like, two sides, right. So there's, like, the part that, for me, it's like, I wasn't even dissecting them. I was just completely resist them and be like, no, you're not allowed to think that way. Blah, blah, blah. As a result of shoving them down, you just think about them more, and you feed them more energy. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:21] Speaker B: And then also, like, I feel like the dis. Dissecting of, like, what beliefs am I holding? And, like, constantly being, like, rewiring is, like, this attachment to more money. Because it's like, you think that you're doing something wrong. So you need to dissect every single belief you have. And it's just, like, not a way you're gonna, like, being so in your mind, all the time is not a way that's going to create a peaceful life. So it's like you have to find this balance of, like, when we. We talk about gratitude and things like that. When it comes to this work, you have to find a balance where you don't shove the. The feelings down. If you have a moment of lack coming up or if you have some resistance coming up, you have to balance. Don't shove that down. But then also stop being so in your mind and dissecting it all. It's like a witnessing. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:05] Speaker B: And letting go. Like, exactly what you said. [00:21:07] Speaker A: You have to actually let it go, because then it can go into, like, allowing the feeling to take over and then also distort your perspective, your perspective, your internal vibe, like, your way of being. And that's, like, not right as well. [00:21:18] Speaker B: Yeah, and something. Yeah, something as well. Like, when we're speaking about gratitude, something else that I used to happen. So it was like this energy, and I was so subconscious, I didn't know I was really doing it. And sometimes you're not aware that you're doing it. It's like, I did feel gratitude, and I was grateful, but there was always this niggly thing in the back of my mind or the niggly feeling in my energetic field. Right. And then there was also moments where I noticed where if I received abundance or I received more money, it was easier for me to be grateful. So that's a really good indication that you actually attached to the external world and you're not fully grateful. Because if, like, you're only grateful when more comes through, like, your client comes through, it's like, it was easier to practice gratitude. [00:22:01] Speaker A: That needs to not happen. Sorry. I'm like, that's gonna spill all over the couch, and I'm gonna have to clean that up. [00:22:06] Speaker B: That's it. [00:22:07] Speaker A: No, thanks. Sorry. Those of you on the podcast, Nadia just balanced her fucking coffee cup on the couch. And I was, like, looking at it, and I'm like, I cannot concentrate. [00:22:16] Speaker B: But, yeah, so it's like, there was, like, two things. It was really this part that. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Sorry, darling, you're gonna have to clean your face. She's got chocolate on her face again. [00:22:25] Speaker B: Yeah. This part where it's like, I was. Couldn't be in gratitude because of these niggly feelings. And I, you know, it was attaching to them. And then also I would notice it was easier to be grateful when more things came through. [00:22:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:37] Speaker B: It's like, how was that? Like, you're never gonna create an internal state of abundance. If it's based on the things that you have. [00:22:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:46] Speaker B: So it's like, based on. Yeah, like, when you get things. [00:22:49] Speaker A: Yeah. You still have chocolate here. And I agree. And I think, like, going forward, just for you to reflect here, ask yourself, am I practicing gratitude to get. Am I. Do I literally have the mindset of I need to be in gratitude so that my bank account improves, so that my finances improve? If that's the thought process, you've got internal resistance. You've got some shit that you're resisting, actually feeling right. States of lack and shit like that that need to actually come up and be passed through your energetic body. And that's what you need to be focusing on. Yeah, and. Yeah, it's like, gratitude shouldn't be something you force. Gratitude is actually just like, something that. It just is. Like, when you. When you actually, like, let go of the shit that keeps you in lack and distortion, you don't even have to force a grateful perspective. I feel like this depends on, like, where you are on your journey. But I remember, like, when I first started, I had such a negative mindset that I actually did have to place. [00:23:45] Speaker B: Where, like, practicing gratitude and, you know, you kind of not. It's not forcing from a place of attachment, but I actually had to. Yeah. Not from a place of attachment, but, like, practicing it and training yourself. [00:23:57] Speaker A: Yeah. It had nothing to do with. [00:23:59] Speaker B: Exactly. Non circumstantial of the reality. [00:24:01] Speaker A: And that's when I first started. That's how I first started graduating. It was, like, non circumstantial. I just want to be a happy person. Yeah. [00:24:06] Speaker B: And that's the energy you need to be in, because it's like, obviously, like, when you're in frequency, like, if your constant state is one of abundance, then obviously, as a byproduct, more things will manifest, and your desires start to manifest because your frequency is. Your state of being is abundance. And, of course, like, attracts like. So you're going to manifest more. But when people hear that they is all. They want it. Like, they hear the. You're going to get Monica and manifest more. [00:24:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:32] Speaker B: And that's. That's the problem, because that's not actually abundance. That's not actually gratitude or it's fake up until. [00:24:38] Speaker A: Yeah. And you don't. You can't hold it. Right. And we've said this in a couple of episodes, particularly the surrender episode that we did last week. When you are getting the things that you want. Right, maybe you're able to fake the gratitude frequency or the abundance frequency for a while be in that state of being. Manifesting is easy. When you're in the fucking energy, it just, it'll happen, right. So when you're in that energy, you might create the thing that you've been wanting to create, but it will not last because it will just highlight who you are at the core. Right. And that was, like, my experience when I first got into this space, right. I had so much self doubt and shit like that. And I didn't trust myself and I didn't trust money like I do now. And, like, the universe. And when I went into, yeah, business, it's like when I got the thing that I thought was going to make me the happiest person in the world, I, like, couldn't hold it. I was met with so much doubt, so much resistance, and I, like, imploded. And it's like I burnt it all to the ground type of vibe, you know? [00:25:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it makes sense because, yeah, you know, where there's wounds, only getting more of that will amplify it. Exactly. [00:25:42] Speaker A: So it's the biggest thing to be aware of. And I felt like this is something I heard for a while on my manifestation journey, even something I experienced. So you likely have already had this experience where you've gotten what you've wanted and you're like, ah, this isn't actually what I want, but for me, I would reject it. [00:26:04] Speaker B: You know what's so funny? When people say, like, it's not what I want. I think some of the times it can be, it can be when you're creating from your ego and you're creating from an idea of the future you think is what's for you and you have some, you know, you're going after a career you think you need or whatever, then obviously you can get annoying. This isn't what I want. Obviously I've experienced that. But then I don't think it's ever. [00:26:23] Speaker A: Like, I think it's like it's never like it's not what you want because you are, you're chasing something outside of yourself thinking that it's going to give you the thing. [00:26:33] Speaker B: Yes. [00:26:33] Speaker A: So it's never going to give you. [00:26:35] Speaker B: So basically, of course, then even when you get what you want, even when you get the thing that is actually for your soul and what you're here to do, it's like it might feel. [00:26:47] Speaker A: I don't even believe that, though. I don't even believe that there's something that you're here to do. I think that that is all, like, ego construct, like, because what does that even mean I feel like it's like a state of being? Yeah, it's a state of being. [00:26:59] Speaker B: And then naturally those, those things that reflect that state of being will just manifest. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:04] Speaker B: You know what I mean? [00:27:05] Speaker A: But I actually think that you could, it doesn't matter, like, what you're doing. Like, I think I genuinely, genuinely, genuinely, I think, and I experienced this for a short time while I was at the other job. When I was in the other job, I was actually happy there. [00:27:20] Speaker B: But would you prefer to continue doing facials or coach clients? What would their preference? The preference would. [00:27:26] Speaker A: My preference would have been to coach clients for sure. [00:27:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:29] Speaker B: That's what I mean. The reference doesn't come from a, this is gonna make me happy. Yeah, the preference comes from a. [00:27:35] Speaker A: A neutral, but I genuinely believe that I could have found happiness anymore. [00:27:39] Speaker B: You need to be able to find happiness. You can find happiness, but, like, when it comes to, like, actually, like, having a career that's aligned for you or whatever, it's not going to come from this place of you thinking that that's going to like, make you happy or anything. It comes from a byproduct or it comes from a thing or a feeling of like, oh, this is fun, and I would actually like to be spending my time doing this. Do you know what I mean? [00:28:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:01] Speaker B: So it's like, for me, I do feel, in my perspective, I do feel like, it's not like I feel like we have joy and we have things that excite us for maybe for reasons, you know, beyond us, but I do believe you should be able to find happiness non circumstantial and in your current reality, no matter what, not even fighting that, not even trying for a better reality. But sometimes we do have, like, a preference to do a run a business or whatever, but it needs to really come from a neutral place. [00:28:28] Speaker A: Yeah. It needs to come from pure excitement. Like, it feels like. Yeah, it shouldn't come from a place of, this is going to make me, this is going to be when it's like, life's worth living. Yeah, that's important. [00:28:38] Speaker B: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I get what you're saying. Like, I don't think you're meant to. I get what you're saying. [00:28:42] Speaker A: I just feel like it's ever changing. Do you know? [00:28:44] Speaker B: Of course it's gonna, it's not, it's, it's like in that moment, it's like in this current moment in your reality, following what excites you and following what you feel like doing. And if that's like coaching clients or whatever that is, but that's. You can't be attached to that being the thing forever or that that is even a thing. It's just like this moment, and it's like you just create from your. What you enjoy. But, like, I could absolutely not want to do this business, and that's perfectly fine. It never was the business. It was my state of being. And that just translated to whatever it needed to be in that moment. [00:29:15] Speaker A: Yeah, 1000%. It's always a state of being that you're after. So I agree. Yeah. Let's dive into the next thing that I wanted to talk about. I feel like these two things could. Or maybe I'll talk about one at a time. The first one would be visualizing. [00:29:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:33] Speaker A: Right now, this is something that works. That was a ghost. No, I have the window open, so it just pushed the door closed. But I have used this personally, and I have seen so much success with visualizing. Right, where visual, you know, just, like, actually picturing myself having money. It's scary how it happens, right? You can literally, like, get your whole state of being into the frequency of having a certain amount or having money coming into your experience. And literally, before you know it, any outcome you want, it's like, it. It will happen. I've manifested a lot by doing this, and it was something that I used to do every single day. I would wake up and I would do it right, and I'd get myself into that frequency. And there were many reasons why I did this as well. Like, to get my, my, like, my whole being on board with having, like, more money, like, you know, getting comfortable with having more money in the frequency of more money, whatever. So that's what I did. And because I experienced so much success with it, I just kept going. But then after a while, particularly, like, when we started to get into, like, you know, learning about surrender and attachment and things like that, I realized I'm like, where am I doing this from? Like, it just, it felt like the more I started to surrender into my reality and get present and happy in the here and the now, the less need. I felt like I had to visualize and, like, actively try and manifest things because I was like, I don't feel like I actually, like, need to do it. Like, there was no, like, desire to want to do it. There was no. I didn't feel like. I just, I didn't feel even necessary, like, necessary or important. So, yeah, I stopped doing it, and I actually found that it didn't impact, like, how money was coming into my life and in, you know what I mean? [00:31:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:28] Speaker A: In fact, I feel like I opened to more when I stopped visualizing. [00:31:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Because you're in the present moment. [00:31:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:34] Speaker B: And I feel like, you know, that when it comes to, like, constantly practicing this moment of visualizing a different moment, like, you are fully resistant, you are sending out a bit, you're resisting this moment, this current moment, what you have. And it's like, it is very much one of those situations where it's like you are. That's attachment to a different moment, it's attachment to another outcome. And I know that can be really hard to hear because we hear so much of like, you know, so many actually teach you visualization, visualization and things like that. But it's like when it's coming from an energy or trying to not be in this moment and realize you actually have everything you have now and you're in the fullness of this moment, it's like, well, why would you, if you. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Actually were grateful, that's what I mean. [00:32:17] Speaker B: If you actually were in a state of abundance, why would you be chasing another moment? [00:32:21] Speaker A: Why would you need another moment? Why would you need to visualize anything else other than what you have now? [00:32:25] Speaker B: Feelings right now. [00:32:27] Speaker A: Exactly. And it's like there. It's all here, as you said. It's like you don't need anything outside of yourself. [00:32:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:32] Speaker A: So if this moment is the most perfect moment there is, and everything is. [00:32:38] Speaker B: Working, all you have, it's all, that's like, it's like it goes beyond, like this being so perfect and yes, that, that's the truth. Like, I do believe, like, the, this current moment is perfect. [00:32:47] Speaker A: It is. No matter what you're going have. [00:32:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all you have. So why do you want to spend another moment in a future that doesn't actually, like, I feel like, you know, the energy when I did it, it felt like that was a more, that was a better time. You know, the visualization was going to give me a better time. It was going to give me. [00:33:06] Speaker A: Well, why? How could you ever, like, visualize without that being your motive? Do you know what I mean? [00:33:11] Speaker B: Well, I was driving in the car the other day and it like, it was so natural. It wasn't like a forced visualization. I didn't sit there, but I was just thinking about the podcast, like building, like thinking about a community and things like that. But it was so I didn't do anything. It was, I was driving and just had these thoughts of it. Do you want to me. So it's like, I don't know. [00:33:27] Speaker A: Like, I don't know. I still feel like that can come from a place of not presence. Do you know what I mean? [00:33:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:32] Speaker A: And like, still subconsciously comes from a place of, like, something, you know, like. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it depends, because it's like, am I attached to that? Do I need that to happen? Do I think that that's going to bring a better moment? Because my brain and it can just be thoughts of my brain just doing. [00:33:48] Speaker A: And the brain is constantly never in the present moment. It's always going. [00:33:50] Speaker B: Always thinking. Yeah. So obviously I didn't sit there being like, oh, like, you know what I mean? Like, I have. This is, you know, because my brain. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Does that too, but it actually comes from a place of still programmed to think that there's something, a better moment. Do you know what I mean? So that's why. I mean, I'm like, I reckon, like, genuinely, genuinely, genuinely. I know it's a big statement to make, but I genuinely think all visualization is. Comes from a, like, a not present moment because you shouldn't actually be somewhere else. You should be here, right. Right here, right now. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Use your resources. And it's like, it's okay to, you know, I'd love to have a community of, like, people here and, like, doing that, but, like, the attachment, the forcing, the trying and thinking that that's gonna, you know, bring something can be big problem. [00:34:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. Yeah, it's like, for me, it's like, indifferent. I'm just like, I'm just so happy being here right now. Do you know what I mean? Like, having this conversation with you, being able to, like, put these episodes out. [00:34:42] Speaker B: There and you are grateful and you're in the moment with what you have. [00:34:45] Speaker A: Exactly. I'm just like, great. This is amazing. Do you know what I mean? [00:34:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know. I agree with. [00:34:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I know you do. I'm just getting passionate about it. [00:34:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:56] Speaker A: You know mine? Yeah. How about you? What's your next one? [00:35:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:35:02] Speaker A: I feel like a notes app out, doll. [00:35:03] Speaker B: That's it. So when it comes to. I feel like this is gone beyond money. [00:35:10] Speaker A: What do you mean? [00:35:10] Speaker B: This whole conversation has gone beyond money. [00:35:12] Speaker A: Has it? Oh, whatever. You can apply it to anything. [00:35:16] Speaker B: You can apply to anything. But, yeah, like, these are, like, you know when we were talking about, like, money energetics. But this one specifically in terms of money. [00:35:22] Speaker A: So I used to visualize, like, I used to do the visualizing to get myself into a state of being where I was like, comfortable enough energetically to hold large amounts of money. That's why I would do it. [00:35:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:33] Speaker A: So I can get my state, like, I could like, literally trick, but not trick my body, but like, teach my body to be comfortable, to hold abundance. But I didn't realize that abundance is like being in a state of presence and being in the here and the now and being open to life right now and being open to the abundance right now is the exact same frequency I was trying to create through visualizing. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:54] Speaker A: That state of, you know, but it's like doing it from a place of non attachment, not needing anything outside of me. And like, you know, I mean, it's like a more powerful frequency. [00:36:01] Speaker B: Yeah. And I truly believe that's what every soul and every person is actually trying to chase in this life. Like, when we talk about abundance and all that, I feel like everyone's trying to. Everyone. The soul desire is the frequency. [00:36:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:13] Speaker B: In which it holds. That's what we yearn for. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:15] Speaker B: You know, because if more money doesn't give you that, if more money doesn't. [00:36:19] Speaker A: Which it doesn't, can confirm if you. [00:36:21] Speaker B: Don'T feel abundant, if you don't actually grateful, then more money won't do that. [00:36:24] Speaker A: Then can confirm this needs to not be there. [00:36:26] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:36:27] Speaker A: But anyway, again, the coffee cup on the couch. [00:36:32] Speaker B: So something I used to do when it comes to money is I used to, it's not a specific technique or anything, but I used to just in general, I used to force control and try to make force an outcome with money that I wanted. Thinking, because I thought thinking about it, fixating on it, it was like, basically my brain was associated with this belief that when I worry, I'm okay. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Mm hmm. [00:36:55] Speaker B: If that makes sense. So when it come to like, you know, I'd be in moments where I'm like, oh, is this bill gonna get paid? Or thinking about the future, I think about the moments where I was like, oh, this needs to pay. This needs to be paid. And like, that control came in. [00:37:10] Speaker A: So you would hyper fixate? [00:37:12] Speaker B: Well, I was in an illusion, thinking that worrying was keeping me safe, so I would control and fixate and think about it. So for me, like, the biggest lesson I've learnt is like, surrender and practicing non control. Actually practicing letting go of attachment to the bank account. Attachment to like, attachment to all of it. Just like releasing any form of control you have over your bank account, over a bill being paid, all of like, just letting that go, it doesn't. [00:37:39] Speaker A: Like. [00:37:39] Speaker B: So basically, what I'm just trying to say is the worry and the control and the fixating and the visualizing and the I want this outcome isn't, and it's not doing anything, you know, in fact, it will just make you feel worse. So, like, I had to learn to actually feel safe in fully surrendering, fully letting go of control. To be able to see that, like, life can still support me. It's I'm not, I I think a lot of people operate in the, that's why people can't break free from scarcity is because they're actually in control. They're in, they feel that their control is doing something for them. And that's why they can't let go with life and just trust life. So that's been, like, a really, really big thing that I've had to, like, overcome. It was, like, the hardest thing to overcome. [00:38:18] Speaker A: But break, that's a really important topic to talk about because so many people, like, in the manifestation community, and it fits. Like, it kind of, like, rolls into the visualization conversation where you overly fixate on creating outcomes. [00:38:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:33] Speaker A: And you're doing it from such a mind level. [00:38:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:36] Speaker A: And, yeah. [00:38:37] Speaker B: And I think, like, we, because we're such, we're, like, programmed in a society to stress and worry and think about money and make money. Be the. [00:38:45] Speaker A: Could you, like, touch on how this actually impact you did a little bit. But, like, really highlighting this, like, because it's, like, in a society sense, because I feel like, you know, spiritual manifestation people, they're aware. They're aware of that. They're aware that that is, like, the case society wise. We see people in the rat race with fucking life. Right. Trying to create those things. But how does that actually, how is that now copy and pasted onto manifestation community and how we've been taught manifestation by some people. [00:39:12] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I think, like, the part where it's like, you know, fixate on an outcome, you know, destroy that the money's gonna come in at this day. [00:39:18] Speaker A: And this time and all of that will. [00:39:20] Speaker B: And it will. I think that can be coming from a place of distrusting it. Yeah, that's what I mean. So that's what I believe. For me, it felt like, you know, the control and it feels like, for me, what would, it's just like that my whole body was in anxiety and worry about, like, these things. So it would be, it was just, I think we don't realize that we're operating an illusion, that worrying is key. [00:39:45] Speaker A: Is actually doing the manifestation, but it's not actually worrying. It's like it's the act of thinking that you're actually, like. So you're not, like, you're not worrying when you're doing it, but the underlying frequency is worry, but you're doing it from a place of. Oh, no, I'm just manifesting, like, I'm just, like, being aware of my thoughts. I'm just being aware of, like, my mindset. I'm just making sure that I'm on top of my reality and what I'm putting out into the universe, but it's actually not coming from that place at all. Instead, you're coming from that worry frequency and that control frequency, and you're basically doing what you've always been taught to do in society, which is to worry and, like, try and control the outcomes of things. [00:40:31] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I think. Yeah, and it really comes. [00:40:34] Speaker A: It's. [00:40:34] Speaker B: That's exactly right. And it's like, I think it was also this belief that, like, it almost, like, it's just a complete, like, a distortion that I think that the universe is gonna miss something. [00:40:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Or it's gonna forget me. [00:40:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:46] Speaker B: Or it's going to, like, I. Yeah. It's like this absolute illusion. And then, so when you actually start breaking free from that, even if it's, like, subconscious, even if you're not in, like, panic with her and you're just like. [00:40:57] Speaker A: And. [00:40:57] Speaker B: But there's this underlying subconscious feeling of worry. When you actually practice surrender, you realize that, like, oh, it was never the worry that, like, made it all work out. It was never the worry that, like, fixed anything. And, like, it's just like this. It's a deep, deep practice of having to just trust that, like, letting go of every moment, every letting go of any worry you have and just letting life be, it's like, it's very, really, really deep. It's so deep. It's like one of the deepest things I've had to work on. That's, like, the biggest thing I've had to work on with money, because it's. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Like you get into a state of just even allowing, like, the moment to be what it needs to be, the situation to result in whatever it needs to result into. And you allow each situation to teach you whatever it needs to teach you. Right. It's like, even if it doesn't go your way, you have to, like, surrender to that. [00:41:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:48] Speaker A: You have to, like, understand that it's still happening for you, and it's an opportunity to either, like, deepen into yourself to learn something about yourself, to learn something about life, and you just have to, like, let go and, like, let go and fall into that, you know? Yeah. [00:42:00] Speaker B: And this, like, practice really taught me that, like, um, the universe is a lot smarter than what you think you are. Your higher self knows exactly. I'm gonna be honest, the universe knows exactly what you need to learn from a lesson. It knows exactly when something needs to be paid. It knows exactly when you know. You know, you're in situations where, like, I've even had a moment where my partner asked me to contribute more money and it was like, I didn't go. And, sorry, I just, like, thought I'd bring this up, but, like, this is exactly, like, the topic of control. I didn't go into that moment of, like, I'm gonna go fix this. I'm gonna sort this out. I let life show me how that can happen. Right? So it's like, in whatever capacity. And it was like, it's just this constant trust with the universe that you need to embody. And it's like, non circumstantial of, like, what my reality looks like or what's gonna happen. It's just a letting go. Like, it's a complete letting go of, like, both trusting that if the money needs to come in and the money can come in, and I'm open to that, and then also it will sort itself out in any capacity it needs to. So it's just, it's honestly, it's just a deep surrender without outcome focus. It's like not worrying about the outcome. [00:43:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that. Because when you are trying to create things, like, make things happen, whether it's like, through visualizing or, like, controlling the outcome and fixating on, like, the bill needs to be paid by this date and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, what ends up happening is you end up blocking yourself off from so much abundance that actually can come into your experience. And that's really been my experience with letting go like this and practicing living life like this. And this is what, like, Nadia was touching on when she's like, your higher self knows what the fuck's up, right? [00:43:33] Speaker B: Yeah, it really does. [00:43:34] Speaker A: You actually have so much available, so much fucking available, so much money, so many opportunities, so much that can come into your experience right now, but when you have tunnel vision on one way that this needs to work and it needs to happen through this and it has to happen like, this has to happen, whatever, you are just blocking so many other ways that this thing could have been sorted for you. Right. [00:43:57] Speaker B: Honestly. And it's like, wild because. Can I bring up an example? Sorry, I don't want to cut you off. No. [00:44:02] Speaker A: Go on. [00:44:02] Speaker B: No, no. Toye up. [00:44:04] Speaker A: No, you're not. [00:44:04] Speaker B: But just like, no, shut up. [00:44:07] Speaker A: By the way, if Nadia and I are, like, dry with each other, that's just how we are. [00:44:11] Speaker B: That's just our humor. Like, I literally will just tell me to shut up. I'll tell her to shut up. [00:44:15] Speaker A: Yeah. So just, like, if we're, like, if we don't even have, like, a face on and we're telling each other off. [00:44:20] Speaker B: Or whatever, I don't even think anything of it. [00:44:22] Speaker A: You don't? But they might. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Yeah, they might. [00:44:25] Speaker A: They might be like, what a fucking, what a bitch. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Like, so, you know, I, like, for example, last month, I just wanted to bring substance story. Like, last month, all of a sudden, not that I was even, you know, I wasn't even in a situation where it was like, I need the money to pay for my bill. So I'm, that wasn't the situation. But I'm just using this example, like, last month, randomly, the government was like, I'm gonna give it. Everyone got like $300 to pay for their bills or something like that, right? Last month. Yeah, last month. But no, it's like that. So I don't know. Who pays food? [00:44:56] Speaker A: Oh, maybe Dan got it. [00:44:57] Speaker B: Yeah. No, what they do is they, like, installments. They're taking like, $70 off here of the next, like four quarterly bills or whatever. The government's, like, provided some assistance or whatever. Right. But just say I was in a state of, like, I needed to pay that bill. How the universe has so many ways in which you can, that it can support you. That's why it's so important to, like, fully detach and, like, we hear these concepts, but then the control still comes from distrust. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:22] Speaker B: And it's like, so funny because, like, we, we try to get more money. We try to do this. Yeah. [00:45:26] Speaker A: It's like, yeah. Yeah, the universe can support me, but let me try and do this. [00:45:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, yeah. So it's like, you know, even non circumstantial. If I was in a situation in which, you know, I didn't have the money to pay for those bills or whatever because I'm trying to, like, really? [00:45:40] Speaker A: We have been. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:44] Speaker A: We've actually been in those situations. [00:45:45] Speaker B: Yeah. You know. Yeah. You fully, fully need to be. You need that. The number one thing you want to work on if you want to, like, create a life that you actually want of one of abundance is you need to work on your trust with and your relationship to trusting money and life, it's just life, to be honest. Doesn't even feel like money because money is a tool that life uses. But you. It comes down to, like, working on your relationship, just trusting life. [00:46:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:13] Speaker B: I'm just using that example. [00:46:14] Speaker A: So how the fuck would I throw that? That was gonna. [00:46:17] Speaker B: You didn't need more money in those moments, like, here, you know? [00:46:20] Speaker A: Oh, my God. I could think of so many random examples of, like, money coming in crazy ways. [00:46:25] Speaker B: Oh, man. I've fucking funny ones. [00:46:27] Speaker A: One of my, like, past clients, she, like, had a. She had $500 just deposited into her account. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:33] Speaker A: Just out of nowhere. [00:46:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Can come through thin air, baby. [00:46:36] Speaker A: Literally, actually, thin air. Like, they had no trace. They couldn't trace the money back. She called the bank, and then they were like, keep it. It's not like it's yours. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:43] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:46:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:45] Speaker A: But anyway, like, it's just money comes through the most random. Random. Random places, and it's just. There's so many ways. Right. And you might not even come in the way of you receiving the money. Right. It might be somebody coming to pay it for you or whatever. [00:46:59] Speaker B: You don't know. So the whole thing is just, like, the control comes from this place of not actually trusting the next moment. Exactly. So. Yeah. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And we've been in situations where we've been, like, down to nothing and we've had some, like, bills to pay for and we've not had the money to do it. And through this, like, complete surrender, the money always comes in. And if it doesn't come in, it was always for us in some way, shape or form. Right. [00:47:23] Speaker B: But it's. It always. No, it doesn't necessarily mean the money, but it sort of itself out. [00:47:27] Speaker A: It sorts itself out. You end up. Yeah. Learning from the situation. [00:47:31] Speaker B: So, like, I want to give an example is. Have you had an example? [00:47:36] Speaker A: I don't. I can't think of one. [00:47:37] Speaker B: I think your mum gave you money at one point. [00:47:40] Speaker A: I can't. I don't remember that one. I don't know. I've been in so many of the situations. Yeah. Yeah. [00:47:44] Speaker B: There was, like. [00:47:45] Speaker A: I feel like for me, um. It's always sorted itself out. [00:47:49] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just always sorted. Yeah, that's exactly right. It doesn't matter how. Yeah, no, no relevance to talk about how it sorted itself out, but it always did. [00:47:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:57] Speaker B: You know? [00:47:58] Speaker A: Yeah. I can't remember actual, like, proper examples that are coming to my mind right now. [00:48:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:03] Speaker A: Yeah. I think another one. We've kind of, like, touched on, like, through all of this. We've kind of touched on what I wrote down. [00:48:09] Speaker B: Like, I love being vulnerable. I'm just gonna add that out there because I think it really helps them digest it. [00:48:14] Speaker A: Yeah, no, random that I said that. [00:48:16] Speaker B: But I was just thinking that. [00:48:17] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I just love what it's like being friends with a Gemini. [00:48:21] Speaker B: Yeah, say something random. But no, I really hope this is, like, digesting for you. [00:48:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:26] Speaker B: And because, yeah, this is very vulnerable. [00:48:28] Speaker A: We like to give, like, really, like, real. Real life experiences and. Yeah, I've always been like, this, like, with everything. That's, like, one of the biggest feedbacks I get from clients. [00:48:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:36] Speaker A: Like, fuck, I love how you, like, give me, like, the real life, juicy examples. I was like, yeah. I'm like, it's the only way to learn. Like, we literally apply this shit into our life. [00:48:44] Speaker B: And I loved how, like, one of our past coaches, Genevieve. [00:48:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:47] Speaker B: She's so honest about, like, her, and she uses actual examples to be like, this is, like, what it helps you. [00:48:52] Speaker A: To understand people digest. Yeah. Manifesting specific numbers. Yeah, that never felt hot for me, but there was a period where I tried. I tried. I tried to, like, do that. [00:49:06] Speaker B: I even try to do it from, like, a detached, like, this would be fun twix. [00:49:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I've done it like that as. [00:49:12] Speaker B: Well, but it just never felt hot. [00:49:14] Speaker A: It never felt hot. Like, manifesting specific numbers really goes back to, like, what I. We were describing before around just shit. Being really. [00:49:25] Speaker B: Forced and controlled. [00:49:26] Speaker A: It's forced. It's controlled. You're cutting yourself off from the source. [00:49:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:30] Speaker A: That has an infinite supply available for you. It feels like trying to manifest a specific number feels really like I need to make this happen because it comes from a place of, like, distrust again. Like, I need to make sure I have enough. It's just. It's not. Abundance. [00:49:44] Speaker B: Yeah, abundance. [00:49:45] Speaker A: It's really, like, a limited way of creating, in my opinion. So that's. [00:49:49] Speaker B: I think I, like, tried to do that a couple times. I'm like, this is not hot for me. [00:49:53] Speaker A: Me too. This is not. Yeah, I didn't like that. Yeah, we spoke about the acting as if the amount I have is already here. We've done that. We've spoken about that, like, because it's resisting this current moment. [00:50:02] Speaker B: Yeah, we really. [00:50:03] Speaker A: Yeah, you're resisting this current moment. It's just not hot. [00:50:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:06] Speaker A: You know what I wrote down? [00:50:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:09] Speaker A: This is really funny, but this is more of, like, a funny thing. This is a technique that you and I used to do, mostly me, but. [00:50:15] Speaker B: Lakshmi, you made me do that. [00:50:18] Speaker A: I made no, do that. Lakshmi is like this. Like, it's like a chant that you do where you go, om Shri maha Lakshmi namah. Something like that. [00:50:26] Speaker B: And he used to walk into the room, be like, what the fuck are you doing? I was, like, chanting. [00:50:30] Speaker A: That's what Dan would do. And I'd literally go around the room and I'd be dancing. I'd be, like, doing it, which is the vibe. It's a vibe of a mantra. [00:50:37] Speaker B: But I thought the mantra, it's the energy behind it. If you notice, there's a theme behind everything we're saying. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:42] Speaker B: The energy behind what you're doing. [00:50:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:44] Speaker B: And that's, like, that's the most. The frequency is important. So a lot of the time, you really. [00:50:49] Speaker A: I was doing so. Yeah. With the Lakshmi mantra, if you haven't heard of it, you're meant to basically, you get, like, the goddess Lakshmi. You create, like, a shrine for her, and you basically put your intentions there. And for, like, was it how many days? A certain number of days. You have to do the Lakshmi mantra, and you have to, like, visualize what you want, and then it comes to fruition. [00:51:08] Speaker B: Yeah, never did. [00:51:09] Speaker A: Never did. Yeah, I think one time it did for me, and then that's why I kept trying to do it again and again and again. Because it's, like, never did for me. No, I think the first time I did it was because it was, like, fun for me to do. [00:51:19] Speaker B: I feel like my higher self has just always been, like, any more control that you need to heal your. Any more control I could add to my bio. My higher self is like, it's not happening. It's not gonna be manifested through this way. [00:51:31] Speaker A: No, I have one more, actually that I want to talk about. That was just more of, like, a funny thing that we used to do. Yeah, so funny. [00:51:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:37] Speaker A: Like, I used to, like, literally, I controlled it so much, like it was just coming from such an attachment wound. With the Lakshmi mantra. This is a big one. I used to use money as a way of determining whether or not I was open. So depending on how much money I was making or how much money I was allowing into my experience, I would actually use that as a defining. And I feel like this is really specific for entrepreneurs who really focus a lot of, like, money, like, you know, money stuff. But, like, I used to be, like, depending on how much money my business is making and how much money is, like, flowing through, this is, like, an indication of how open I am and how, like, where my vibration is at. [00:52:19] Speaker B: So it's like, yeah, so it's like. [00:52:23] Speaker A: When I wasn't receiving in business, then I'd be like, I'm closed. [00:52:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. I would always do that because I didn't actually understand money. Energetics. I didn't actually understand what it meant. I was actually like, open to receiving. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Well, abundance for me meant money. [00:52:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:36] Speaker A: I wasn't looking at abundance in all the other ways that money, like, abundance was showing up in my life. It was like, money. [00:52:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:42] Speaker A: What was money doing in my experience? And then I would let money define, like, I'd let that dictate what I would do and be like, okay, am I open? Am I not open? What's money doing? [00:52:51] Speaker B: Or you would be like, you'd have abundance come through and you'd be like, someone's wrong. Like, if money, it wasn't in the form of abundance, you'd be like, something's wrong. [00:53:00] Speaker A: That was it. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Like, why is it showing up like this? [00:53:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd get. [00:53:03] Speaker B: Maybe if you were actually fucking grateful. [00:53:05] Speaker A: I get cut. No, I get. I'd get fucking cut. If the. If money was not coming through my business, I'd be like. I remember I was like, babe, so did you? [00:53:15] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. [00:53:16] Speaker A: So you fucking put that on me, bitch. [00:53:18] Speaker B: What? Yeah. What? [00:53:24] Speaker A: Shut the fuck up. [00:53:25] Speaker B: I feel like I was so, like. [00:53:27] Speaker A: You were just as bad. Don't even. God on your spiritual high horse. Spiritual ego. This is where you talk, cuz I'm sipping. [00:53:38] Speaker B: Anyway. Yeah, you know, we did do that. That's how I can relate to that. [00:53:42] Speaker A: Yeah, I was just like, did I? [00:53:44] Speaker B: No, I did. [00:53:44] Speaker A: No, you fucking did that? Yeah. [00:53:46] Speaker B: What do you mean? Anyway, I. Yeah, so it's like you actually like, reject all the other abundance that's available to you. [00:53:55] Speaker A: Yeah, you get cut. [00:53:56] Speaker B: You get cut. Like, I didn't come through this way. [00:53:59] Speaker A: You get cut. [00:53:59] Speaker B: You're just like, ingratitude. [00:54:01] Speaker A: No, you're just like, oh. Like, it came through this. It means it hasn't come through here. [00:54:06] Speaker B: So that. Yeah, mine came. Like, there was always a story. So it was like if I would have, like, abundance would come through, but if it wasn't in the way that I wanted to, I was like, something's wrong. It's not happening. Like, maybe if you stop being attached to it, needing to come through that way, it would literally. Not even that, but just not even that. [00:54:23] Speaker A: Not even that statement. It's like, can you just like, let it go and like, yeah. Actually being gratitude for what you have. [00:54:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. It's wild because. Because I feel like right now if you're in a situation where it's like, your financial situation isn't looking the way that you want it to, and you're perceiving it through the lens of lack, like, you have such a gift right now to actually embody the frequency that we're talking about, which is feeling abundance and gratitude and being so present with the here and the now and not needing anything outside of you, you really have an opportunity to practice that, because what better way to actually practice this right now when you actually don't have the thing that you are pining after? Like, actually take back your energy and see that you are supported, right? You are supported and you're good in the here and the now. Right now, honestly, is anything wrong? It's like, ask yourself that. Not what could happen in the future, not these, like, potential scenarios that you're thinking about, like, right now. Is anything wrong? No. [00:55:26] Speaker B: Can I ask you a question? [00:55:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:27] Speaker B: That I would love for you to answer. I was in the middle of that. [00:55:29] Speaker A: We were in the middle of. Sorry, sorry. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Sorry. Sorry was rude. Sorry. [00:55:32] Speaker A: No, go on. [00:55:33] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:55:34] Speaker A: I forgot now. [00:55:35] Speaker B: I'm sorry. It was a really good question. I think it's gonna like what you're gonna answer. So someone's listening and they're thinking that. Not that I feel like I just. I'm just trying to think of, like, every perspective, or they've got this feeling of, like, I don't have as much as someone else, so I'm not as lucky, or I can't be grateful for what I have because it feels like it's not enough. Like, what would you actually say to that person? [00:55:58] Speaker A: I would. Well, everything we've been saying in this podcast. Yeah. The thing does not bring you the thing. Right. [00:56:03] Speaker B: You also like. Because I feel like you've spoken a lot about this with clients and things like that. Your belief is that every single person, abundance is available. Like, even when you went to Bali and they didn't have as much as you or whatever, you were able to see abundance in the moment. So that's like, you know. [00:56:20] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's what Nadia was describing there is. When I went on a Bali trip, I practiced because I was seeing them through the lens of black, and I don't like seeing people through a disempowered lens, no matter what they're going through. And in Bali, if you don't know, it's. There's a lot of poverty. Right. A lot of people living on the streets and things like that. And, you know, it's different from our western society and like what we have and just like having access to clean water and things like that. Like all of that was really kind of getting to me and I was really like going into like a lack vibration and I disempowering people and I wanted to call back power to them. Right. So I started to look at who actually told me this. Ashley told me this. Ashley. I'll leave her instagram below. She actually told me this. Or did she? Yeah, I'm pretty sure she did. I saw one of, um, one of my friends on in Bali. I met up with her and she told me this. But she was like practicing seeing people through an abundant lens and looking at what they have, right. Rather than what they don't have. That's when I started practicing that. So props goes to her for that. So I started to do that and I started to look at all the ways in which they were supported. Right. I looked at like the connection that they had, the community that they had, the tourists that were giving everyone like money. And like I was like also being the path of least resistance for money. And like I was seeing things through the like lens of perspective and like what they had. I saw that the land was so abundant and vibrant and gave so much to them. [00:57:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:41] Speaker A: So I was just seeing all of that and like that really helped like turn things around and I was just like, oh, like, you can really see things through a lens of I don't have and lack or you can see things through a lens of I do have and this has nothing to do with like physical things. I was looking at physical things then, but this really doesn't have anything to do with like physical things. I think if you are looking at people and you're looking at what they have and you're saying, well, they easy for them because of what they have, then you're still in the energy of the outside. Things are going to give me the internal satisfaction, pleasure, freedom that I'm looking for. And that's just not the case. Right. You're still in this illusion of thinking that it's going to come from outside of you and you are never going to live a happy life from that frequency. If you actually want to be truly happy in this life, it's realizing this most important fact that the thing does not give you the thing. Right. How many rich and famous people, like, fucking kill themselves and like, you know, are so unhappy? They think that this leads to a happy life and it just doesn't, right. And then they get to that point where it's like they've achieved all the things that they think they need to achieve to be happy, free, and all of the things, and then they're not. So then what do they do? They're like, life's not worth living. And then it leads to, like, the drugs, the alcohol and the suicide and things like that. So I feel like we can really learn a lot through, like, western society. Again, we were saying this in the last episode around surrender. I highly recommend listening to that episode if this is like something you struggle with. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:02] Speaker A: Because it's never, ever, ever. Like, I know you've convinced yourself that you think more money in society has programmed you into thinking that as well, right? That more money is going to make you feel happy and it's going to give you more options. And I promise you, it isn't. Right? Abundance is a frequency that is accessible to absolutely everyone. It is a state of being. There are so many ways. What? Like, no, I don't even want to say what you want, but there are so many ways. You can just experience life to the fullest just by tapping into the abundance frequency right now. And you can give. Give yourself your life back. You have so much to experience in this now moment. And if you just let go of your attachment and you get so present and focused in the here and the now, and you open yourself up and you actually see all the ways in which life is actually giving to you and supporting you right now. Like, I'm talking experiencing the sun on your face, experiencing that first sip of coffee in the morning, experiencing like, taking that crisp sip of water and like, fucking being there for every experience that you have, you're going to see just how full your life is right now. And the fact that you don't actually fucking need anything outside of you in order to feel happy, free, abundant and all the things. And this is when life starts to open up to you. And what Nadia said in the episode, which is once you actually start to embody that frequency fully, then of course, no shit, you're going to become a match to more experiences that actually meet that state of being, right. And. But it's not going to come from a place of, I need this. Let me fucking grasp this. Like, this is my reason for living. You know what I mean? Like, when you're doing it from that mentality, you're never going to be happy. You're never going to feel satisfied. You're never going to feel, like, whole and complete. It's just never going to be enough. So I feel like, I went on a massive tangent there, but it needed to come out. [01:00:47] Speaker B: Needed to come out. [01:00:49] Speaker A: I feel like the episode is complete. Yeah. [01:00:53] Speaker B: I feel as well. [01:00:54] Speaker A: I feel like everything I wanted to say, what I feel is sometimes I. [01:00:58] Speaker B: Just say half sentences. You actually do. You do that a lot. Yeah. [01:01:02] Speaker A: And I think that's how we communicate so much. [01:01:05] Speaker B: It's mostly with you. [01:01:05] Speaker A: I do that. Yeah. But we do it on the podcast. [01:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Because we have to, like, be mindful of actually explaining what we mean. [01:01:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:13] Speaker A: Because we'll just, like, look at each other and we'll, like, halfway say something, and I'll be like, you get it. Yeah, you get it, but you guys don't get it. [01:01:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:19] Speaker A: You're like, um, don't understand. [01:01:21] Speaker B: I do feel like it's complete, and. Yeah, I feel, like, perfect. [01:01:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I feel like everything we wanted to say around this topic really came out. I know that we challenged a lot of, like, ideas that are out there, but it makes sense, right? When you find out the energetics of why we do certain things. [01:01:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:39] Speaker A: It's all it comes down to, like, where are you doing it from? That's, like, the biggest thing you want to be mindful of with this, like, manifestation work. Like, where is it actually coming from? [01:01:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:48] Speaker A: Which is something you highlighted in this episode. [01:01:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:50] Speaker A: I think it's a good note to, like, finish on. [01:01:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:52] Speaker A: So if you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to give it a like. If you're on YouTube, subscribe to the channel so you can get notified when we upload new episodes on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you're listening there, you can actually rate and review the podcast. This is an amazing way to actually show your support to the podcast and let us know that you're enjoying it so that we. We know and we can know to create more of these episodes for you. So, yeah, thank you so much and. [01:02:21] Speaker B: See you in the next episode. [01:02:23] Speaker A: Wait, sorry. Thank you so much for listening, and we will see you in the next episode. Bye.